tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503689522096376739.post2304227173215045503..comments2023-10-17T12:19:22.853+01:00Comments on The Catholic Heritage Association of Ireland: Mass for St. Joseph's Day in GraignamanaghCatholic Heritage Associationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16931529213337535429noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503689522096376739.post-77701056715515707052011-04-12T16:58:23.382+01:002011-04-12T16:58:23.382+01:00Particular thanks to Arnaud. If we return to Graig...Particular thanks to Arnaud. If we return to Graignamanagh next year it would be great to have you come to talk to us after Mass about the history of the place.<br /><br />Virgo Potens, as a Cistercian house, why not Cistercians?<br /><br />Thanks to all for your comments. As long as we keep your support, we've no reason to give up.Convenorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17939527929709019039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503689522096376739.post-22470373064783207572011-04-12T14:54:40.357+01:002011-04-12T14:54:40.357+01:00This is the kind of post that makes this site such...This is the kind of post that makes this site such a valuable resource. Congratulations on the care and effort that is put into it. Don't be discouraged. Trust in the Lord.Veronica Lanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12340070034885770230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503689522096376739.post-91609756828764835892011-04-11T22:12:00.801+01:002011-04-11T22:12:00.801+01:00There is a fantastic amount of information on this...There is a fantastic amount of information on this blog. It's really important to keep evangelising the internet but the first step is prayer. You can't do good works without the power of prayer.Internet Apostlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696481454358016116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503689522096376739.post-4214651813650453112011-04-11T17:38:53.565+01:002011-04-11T17:38:53.565+01:00What a grace to have been there on that day! What ...What a grace to have been there on that day! What a grace it would be to see the restoration of monastic life in that Diocese. Perhaps a colony of monks would come from those excellent Benedictines in France who are restoring the Gregorian Chant.Virgo Potenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11671675001264119757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503689522096376739.post-27761232866542871612011-04-01T19:23:53.967+01:002011-04-01T19:23:53.967+01:00Come on guys!!! Any closer and you're in Cork!...Come on guys!!! Any closer and you're in Cork! You know you want to!!! ;-)Shandon Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08054708322584874701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503689522096376739.post-42751904075953418432011-04-01T17:06:18.900+01:002011-04-01T17:06:18.900+01:00It is stunning that these monastic Churches are be...It is stunning that these monastic Churches are being restored after so long. I love how beautiful it is and the traditional Mass is just perfect for the setting. Thank you Arnaud. I enjoyed your previous comments too. The history of the site is really important to undertsand the place of the monastery in the life of the Church.<br /><br />Joyce F.Alyssahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12062622843156426728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503689522096376739.post-53939037406400972812011-03-29T01:59:55.858+01:002011-03-29T01:59:55.858+01:00Some comments on the history of Duiske as related ...Some comments on the history of Duiske as related in V. III of Comerford, which we now know is not correct.<br /><br />There was confusion over the identity of the Abbey of Duiske with a daughter house of Jerpoint, Kilenny (Ceall Laninne), founded sometime between 1165 and 1170, on land given by the persons mentoned. <br /><br />The confusion arose in part due to the similarities of the names (de Valle Dei = Kilenny and de Valle Salvatoris = Duiske) and the fact that in Gilberts transcripts the editor mistakenly places Duiske after ‘monasterio’ in l.24 of the charter, instead of the words ‘si ibi fuit’, which lead to it being interpreted as the foundation charter of Duiske. <br /><br />Duiske was also at a later date grated the lands of the house of Kilenny (which no doubt added to the confusion), when the latter was dissolved in the 13th C following the visitation of Stephen of Lexington in 1228, and a long dispute over the lands ensued between Duiske and Jerpoint.<br /><br />Duiske was in-fact founded ab initio by William Marshall, it would seem after the foundation of Tintern de Voto, with initial grants having been made by 1204 when the cemetery was consecrated at Duiske. <br /><br />Arrangements were being made with land for the house in the period 1204 – 1212, based on the series of charters preserved in the National Library.<br /><br />The formal charter of foundation may be as late as 1210 – 1212 based on internal evidence of who witnessed it. It is probable that William Marshall had in-fact arranged to make this foundation even before he arrived in Ireland to take his fief due to the complex nature of the process to found these houses, and that monks from Stanley in Wiltshire were to be used. The Marshall family are connected to Wiltshire. <br /><br />The earliest charters relating directly to Duiske are in-fact ‘quitclaims’ to land held by knights of Williams 'house-hold'at Annamult, and they are made in favour of the monks of Stanley and Marshall for this foundation, and date to 1204. There are also two entries in the Chronicles of Stanley Abbey further confirming this, and in 1204 the chronicle records the monks residing at ‘Locmeran juxta Kilkenniam’ (on demesne land of Marshall), and then at ‘Athanmolt’ (land which remind and important grange of the house) and then at ‘Castrum’ (also land which became a grange), before settling at Duiske, ‘Duisque alias Sancti Salvatoris’.<br /><br />With regards,<br /><br />Arnaud de Volder, PhD researcher at NUIG.Arnaud de Voldernoreply@blogger.com